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#154599 - 03/22/09 08:53 PM Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond
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These are pretty self explanatory - more detailed pictures of the .25 acre SMB reproduction pond and the beds I made last week as I promised.

I realize these beds are in close proximity to one another - but I was worried about the South shore collecting silt runoff so I had to remain dedicated to the N and E banks.

The bed walls average around 16" - 20" in back and gradually decrease as they slope to the welcome mat of the Motel 6 Master Suite. The rubber feed tubs I used in order to keep the beds up and out of the silt/clay also demanded I use mucho rock to keep it flush. I didn't want there to exist an abrupt rubber lip - but create a more gradual "driveway" effect into the beds. Way more about me than the fish? Probably so.

I would have added additional rock, and probably will, but with heavy rains predicted I had to complete the essential aspects of the job first. All rock was carried by pail - about 15T - by yours truly. My fingers are still swollen to bratwurst proportions.

From all I've read, the project entailed some unique properties from which I can hopefully extrapolate some important data [if the SMB utilize them at all!]: Rubber feed tubs, Limestone rock, elevated beds, issues with siltation... crazy








Edited by teehjaeh57 (08/26/10 10:04 AM)
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#154607 - 03/22/09 09:10 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: teehjaeh57]
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You will have to keep us updated on how the spawn goes and if the SMB like their new love making beds.
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#154608 - 03/22/09 09:14 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: CJBS2003]
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#154615 - 03/22/09 09:29 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: teehjaeh57]
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Nice job, TJ! I'll be curious to hear how well the SMB use the beds.
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#154622 - 03/22/09 09:46 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: davatsa]
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Are they covered with water yet?
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#154623 - 03/22/09 09:49 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: ewest]
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No, but they may be in 12 hours. ;\)
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#154625 - 03/22/09 10:07 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: davatsa]
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 Originally Posted By: davatsa
Nice job, TJ! I'll be curious to hear how well the SMB use the beds.


You need to come up for the Baylor NU game this year Davasta - and we can see for ourselves.
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#154626 - 03/22/09 10:07 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: teehjaeh57]
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Been threatening rain all day - it sure better come or I raced against an imaginary deadline.
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#154628 - 03/22/09 10:10 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: teehjaeh57]
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I think they just said the %chance dropped from 70 to zero. Looks like tomorrow afternoon is tha next best chance.
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#154632 - 03/22/09 10:14 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: Bruce Condello]
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Thanks for the update - there's still time to move some rocks. Meet me in 20 min? I'll bring the headlamps.
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#154634 - 03/22/09 10:18 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: teehjaeh57]
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I'm already there. I rode my bicycle out.
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#154646 - 03/23/09 05:59 AM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: Bruce Condello]
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Let me get this straight. You moved the rocks by hand?

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#154695 - 03/23/09 10:13 AM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: otto]
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Otto

Yes - Cat got them to the top of the dam but I didn't want to disturb the soils too much and the slopes are 2:1 of very loose particulate so I didn't drive down the damface.

As I carried the first bucket to create the cornerstone of first SMB Motel 6 I thought, "this isn't so bad!" 15T later I was throwing them down the slopes into a loose pile and arranging them from there. Although I can say there is not a single pebble placed without "design"...I just have to hope my "design" is conducive to SMB reproduction!
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#154697 - 03/23/09 10:13 AM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: teehjaeh57]
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#154706 - 03/23/09 10:27 AM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: teehjaeh57]
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All real Pondmeisters build their SMB beds by hand.












Or coerce their kids into doing it.
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#154722 - 03/23/09 11:27 AM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: Theo Gallus]
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I dumped my SMB bed construction material into a flat pile with the hopes that the fish are either creative or motivated to extreme makeovers.
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This, of course, excludes the polyvinylphibian saucers. That was (ahem) a labor of love.
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#154728 - 03/23/09 01:05 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: Brettski]
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With love from your dad B'ski - cribbs , B'ski logs and polyvinylphibian saucers . ;\)















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#154800 - 03/23/09 07:57 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: ewest]
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Bski and Herr Gallus definitely showed me the way with their structure. Thanks gentlemen!
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#154843 - 03/23/09 10:59 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: teehjaeh57]
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I'm sure glad bluegill aren't so picky. They seem to have this survival of the species down pat.
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#155044 - 03/24/09 11:16 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: burgermeister]
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Thought I should repost these as I deleted the old ones on Flickr accidently:
















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#185134 - 09/26/09 02:31 AM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: teehjaeh57]
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Under advisement from Bob Lusk I moved some SMB beds to different depths so I could hedge my bets. I also was able to increase the distance between beds which could improve my chances of pulling a spawn.



The slope makes the new beds higher on the bank appear slanted, and guess what? They are. I was tired and left them that way. I wonder if the fish reject them finding them unsuitable?





Following Eric and Bill's excellent SMB articles in Pond Boss mag, I used the cinderblock I had on hand and constructed one, finally, the RIGHT way!



I've stocked 8 SMB from 10-14" in this 1/3 acre pond. I'm planning to stock around 40 before the Autumn - and hope for the best come Spring.

Here's the pond full pool after a hard, satisfying day of projects at the hatchery ponds. I have a nice population of FHM established to feed the SMB this Autumn, Winter and Spring...not taking pellets as of yet.





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#185143 - 09/26/09 08:10 AM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: teehjaeh57]
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Thanks for the wonderful pics TJ. A good idea to hedge your depth bets. Any chance of adding a log/wood by a few beds even if temporarily during the spawn ?
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#185262 - 09/27/09 09:31 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: ewest]
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Yes indeed, Eric. Do you think a Brettski log would serve this purpose well also? I have literally hundreds of lbs of scrap PVC I need to use, and this would be a nice Winter project.
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#185263 - 09/27/09 09:37 PM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: teehjaeh57]
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Those pictures are fantastic. Great work!
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#185300 - 09/28/09 09:48 AM Re: Mo' Bettah Bed Pix from SMB repro pond [Re: Bruce Condello]
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I think the B'ski logs will work. Try a few with different sizes and limb densities and see what works best.
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