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#92482 - 11/18/06 11:32 AM Common pond fish primer (sunfish edition)
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BLUEGILL




Omnivore, eats zooplankton, small fish and readily eats pellets.

High fecundity, makes excellent forage fish.

Can reach two pounds.

Excellent palatability.


http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=3375 Bluegill FishBase


COPPERNOSE BLUEGILL





Found primarily in the southern U.S. Does not thrive in cooler, northern waters of the U.S.

Also an omnivore, that eats zooplankton, small fish and does quite well on pelleted feed.

High fecundity which enhances it's ability to act as a primary forage fish.

Can reach two pounds. One pound fish is considered large.


One Nice Coppernose -

http://www.pondboss.com/forums/ubbthread...ite_id=1#import

CNBG variation Fla vs Ark -
http://www.pondboss.com/forums/ubbthread...ite_id=1#import



GREEN SUNFISH





Eats zooplankton, small fish and pellets.

High fecundity.

Can reach one pound.

Good eating if it reaches appropriate size.


http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=3371 Green Sunfish FishBase


REDEAR SUNFISH






Eats zooplankton, and small live prey items including mollusks. Typically won’t consume pelleted food unless specifically trained to do so.

Low to moderate fecundity.

Can reach sizes in ponds exceeding three pounds.

Excellent palatability.


http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=3378 Redear Sunfish FishBase


HBG = BLUEGILL/GREEN SUNFISH HYBRID




Prefers small fish, zooplankton and pellets.

Generally reproduces at a very low rate.

Can reach over one pound.

Excellent table fare.


HBG pic/question - http://www.pondboss.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=1341&Number=14459#Post14459

BLACK CRAPPIE



Eats zooplankton and smaller fish. Does not eat pellets.

High fecundity with proper substrate. Erratic year classes.

Sometimes reaches 3 pounds.

Excellent palatability.


Crappie Pond - http://www.pondboss.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=1363&Number=14831#Post14831

http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=3388 Black Crappie FishBase


WHITE CRAPPIE



Will eat zooplankton, but prefers live fish. Won’t eat pellets.

High fecundity. Often will overpopulate ponds.

Can reach sizes over three pounds with high levels of fish for forage.

Excellent palatability.



Crappie Pond - http://www.pondboss.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=1363&Number=14831#Post14831

http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=3387 White Crappie FishBase


Edited by ewest (06/14/10 04:54 PM)
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#139434 - 11/24/08 03:19 PM Re: Common pond fish primer (sunfish edition) [Re: Bruce Condello]
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ORANGE SPOTTED SUNFISH
Lepomis humilis




OSS discussion thread




Edited by ewest (01/07/10 08:56 AM)
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#198160 - 01/07/10 08:56 AM Re: Common pond fish primer (sunfish edition) [Re: Theo Gallus]
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Pumpkinseed Sunfish - PS - Common sunfish, sunny, yellow sunfish.
Mostly northern US distribution into southern Canada and south along eastern US to Georgia. Colorful. Feeds on small snails, insects and fish. Usually does not get quite as big as BG.

Pics from Wisc Fish.







Omaha’s fish ided by Bill as PS




CJ’s pic ided by Bill and CJ as PS



From this link http://www.pondboss.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=202464&fpart=1 which has PS and RES info WRT hybrids.

Bill’s discussion of the above 4 PS and one possible PS hybrid (hybrid ("top fish" in the discussion below) not copied here).

Note the pectoral of bottom fish & CJ's PS reaches past the posterior pelvic fin and to or just about to the base of the anal fin in both fish. As I look a second and third time, more closely at the PS fins, I think the pectoral fin, if laid straight back, will actually reach the base of the anal fin. Look closely for the fine pointed pectoral fin tip in both of the the PS. Whereas the back tip of the pectoral of top fish does not quite reach the pelvic tip or go past the posterior pelvic and in no way comes close to the base of the anal fin. This can be hard to measure on a picture but in this case it is fairly clear at least to me - maybe not to all.

Also notice that the back tip of the pelvic fin reaches within about or at least 1/4" of the base of the anal fin in both of what I am calling PS. But in the top fish this distance is at least 1/2"-3/4" or more. This fin distance feature is a consistant feature for individuals of the same species and a good indication that the two with different fin rations are different species. Or the top fish could be a hybrid.

Since the pectoral fin is not as long as it should be in the top fish and coloration is not what I normally see in a pure PS I conclude it is some sort of hybrid because it does have some PS (or maybe RES) coloration and features.

About top 2 fish pics above (Wisc Fish pics)by John Lyons
The pectorial back delicate, narrow tip or end is very hard to see in the bottom pic, but clearer in the top pic. In top fish if fin is laid straight back it will definately reach beyond the pelvic fin and quite close to or to the first spine of the anal fin. If the pectoral fin was well colored on 2nd fish as 1st fish, I think pectoral fins of both fish in the two Lyon's pics would have the same measurement ratios.

Notice in the top fish, the collapsed pelvic fin reaches close and within abt 1/4" of the anal fin base (not a 1/2"-3/4" distance) - similar to earlier pics of what I called PS.

Note I don't think one can use this pectoral fin feature to separate PS and RES. Both have very long pectoral fins. Actually I think the RES pectorial fin is longer in RES compared to PS. Not sure about the distance between the pelvic fin and anal base for RES. BG also have relatvely long pectorial fins but typically not quite as long as RES or PS.

All this stuff can be hard to see in pictures. It is easier to see and measure with a fish in your hand.










Edited by ewest (02/04/10 09:53 AM)
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